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		<title>JPMorgan&#8217;s New CIO Tied to Madoff, U.S. Treasury, LTCM &#8211; TheStreet</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Matt Zames, the executive tapped to take over management of JPMorgan Chase(JPM_)&#8217;s chief investment office (CIO), has a controversial resume&#8230; Zames allegedly told a colleague about suspicions regarding Bernie Madoff some 18 months before his Ponzi scheme was revealed to the public. He also worked at Long Term Capital Management, the now-infamous hedge fund comprised of top academics and Nobel Prize-winning economists whose blow-up rattled global markets in the late 1990s. Zames also heads the Treasury Borrowing Advisory Committee, a Wall Street committee that advises the U.S. Treasury on managing its debt. via JPMorgan&#8217;s New CIO Tied to Madoff, U.S. Treasury, LTCM &#8211; TheStreet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetthis" style="text-align:left;"><p> <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow" class="tt" href="http://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=JPMorgan%E2%80%99s+New+CIO+Tied+to+Madoff%2C+U.S.+Treasury%2C+LTCM+%E2%80%93+TheStreet+http%3A%2F%2Fis.gd%2FAMyRMs" title="Post to Twitter"><img class="nothumb" src="http://wallstreetexaminer.com/wp-content/plugins/tweet-this/icons/en/twitter/tt-twitter-micro3.png" alt="Post to Twitter" /></a></p></div><p>Matt Zames, the executive tapped to take over management of JPMorgan Chase(JPM_)&#8217;s chief investment office (CIO), has a controversial resume&#8230;</p>
<p>Zames allegedly told a colleague about suspicions regarding Bernie Madoff some 18 months before his Ponzi scheme was revealed to the public.</p>
<p>He also worked at Long Term Capital Management, the now-infamous hedge fund comprised of top academics and Nobel Prize-winning economists whose blow-up rattled global markets in the late 1990s.</p>
<p>Zames also heads the Treasury Borrowing Advisory Committee, a Wall Street committee that advises the U.S. Treasury on managing its debt.</p>
<p>via <a href="http://www.thestreet.com/story/11534051/1/jpmorgans-new-cio-tied-to-madoff-federal-reserve-ltcm.html?cm_ven=GOOGLEN">JPMorgan&#8217;s New CIO Tied to Madoff, U.S. Treasury, LTCM &#8211; TheStreet</a>.</p>
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		<title>The Eternal Teenage Life of Ruth Madoff</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[After three years of near total silence since her husband, Bernard  Madoff, admitted to running a Ponzi scheme that devastated thousands,  Ruth Madoff has embarked on a nationwide sympathy tour. In the past  week, she hit 60 Minutes and The Today Show,...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetthis" style="text-align:left;"><p> <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow" class="tt" href="http://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=The+Eternal+Teenage+Life+of+Ruth+Madoff+http%3A%2F%2Fis.gd%2FrJ82U5" title="Post to Twitter"><img class="nothumb" src="http://wallstreetexaminer.com/wp-content/plugins/tweet-this/icons/en/twitter/tt-twitter-micro3.png" alt="Post to Twitter" /></a></p></div><p>After three years of near total silence since her husband, Bernard  Madoff, admitted to running a Ponzi scheme that devastated thousands,  Ruth Madoff has embarked on a nationwide sympathy tour. In the past  week, she hit <a href='http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7386490n&#038;tag=contentMain;contentAux' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><em class='bbc'>60 Minutes</em></a> and <a href='http://www.hulu.com/watch/293835/nbc-today-show-ruth-madoff-we-decided-to-kill-ourselves?forums=1' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><em class='bbc'>The Today Show</em></a>, and gave an interview <a href='http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/31/business/madoff-family-aims-to-write-its-own-future.html?_r=1' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>with the <em class='bbc'>New York Times</em></a>, all to support the new biography <a href='http://www.amazon.com/dp/0316198935/ref=as_li_ss_til?tag=slatmaga-20&#038;camp=0&#038;creative=0&#038;linkCode=as4&#038;creativeASIN=0316198935&#038;adid=1199WZTKSGVDZP240JC6' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><em class='bbc'>Truth and Consequences: Life Inside the Madoff Family</em></a>. The overly sympathetic book was written by Laurie Sandell, who wrote about her own sociopathic father in the graphic memoir <a href='http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005OHUK7M/ref=as_li_ss_til?tag=slatmaga-20&#038;camp=0&#038;creative=0&#038;linkCode=as4&#038;creativeASIN=B005OHUK7M&#038;adid=1GBGEF7G1WWPAH1J2HCH' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><em class='bbc'>The Impostor’s Daughter</em></a><em class='bbc'>. Truth and Consequences</em> relies heavily on interviews with Ruth and her surviving son, Andrew. (Tragically, her other son, <a href='http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/12/11/mark-madoff-suicide-what-he-knew.html' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>Mark, committed suicide late last year</a>.)</p>
<p> 		As Josh Voorhees <a href='http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2011/10/27/bernie_madoff_ruth_madoff_interview_ponzi_scheme_mastermind_says.html' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>points out on the Slatest</a>,  Ruth repeats the same details in each interview: Ruth and Bernie tried  to commit suicide while he was under house arrest; Ruth’s reaction to  her husband’s admission of enormous financial fraud was, “What’s a Ponzi  scheme?”; Ruth had no idea that her husband was bilking his investors  for all they were worth. It is this last point that remains contentious.  A look in the comments section of any press coverage of Ruth Madoff  shows that lots of people still think she’s lying about what she knows  (sample from <a href='http://community.nytimes.com/comments/www.nytimes.com/2011/10/31/business/madoff-family-aims-to-write-its-own-future.html' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>that <em class='bbc'>New York Times</em> article</a>:  “What a bunch of lies. Anyone in the industry knows that the returns  had to be made up. &#8230; [T]he sons knew it, the wife knew it, everyone  knew it”).</p>
<p>    Despite the haters who remain, Ruth’s big reveal seems to be working in  her favor. The attitude toward her has certainly softened since 2009,  when Sheelah Kolhatkar <a href='http://nymag.com/print/?/news/features/57772/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>wrote a feature in <em class='bbc'>New York</em> solely about the vitriol directed toward Mrs. Madoff</a>  in the aftermath of her husband’s arrest. Part of why this publicity  tour has been successful is because the last few years have been so  clearly awful for her. She sobs in front of Morley Safer, not just about  losing her companion of 50 years, but for losing her son, Mark, who had  not spoken to her in the two years before his death. She’s small-boned,  and looks breakable and frail beneath the studio lights.</p>
<p>Another reason why Ruth no longer inspires exclusively hatred is, quite  frankly, she’s broke. She’s had to pay for her husband’s crimes, which  gives an irate public something concrete to hold onto. When the news <a href='http://nymag.com/print/?/news/features/57772/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>first broke in late 2008, Ruth was silent while her lawyers fought to keep a big pot of Bernie’s ill-gotten gains</a>. (According to <em class='bbc'>New York</em>, Ruth argued for over $70 million in homes, savings and jewelry.) She’s let go of all that. <em class='bbc'>Truth and Consequences </em>outlines  the terrible financial straits that Ruth is in. She’s living in Florida  near her sister Joan and Joan’s husband, both of whom have had to come  out of retirement to work as cab drivers because they lost their nest  egg when Madoff’s financial fraud was unearthed. She can barely afford a  $30 present for her granddaughter, or new shoes. (“Luckily, in Florida  you can wear flip flops all the time.”) And either because she knows  it’s good P.R., or she feels legitimately penitent, Ruth hands out food  with Meals on Wheels in her spare time.</p>
<p><a href='http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2011/11/ruth_madoff_why_i_believe_she_didn_t_know_about_bernie_madoff_s_.html' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.slate.com&#8230;_madoff_s_.html</a></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[As politicians and central bankers around the world desperately try  to keep their debt drenched ponzi scheme going for awhile longer, the  mood darkens among the populations of developed countries around the  world. I came across a quote from, of all ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetthis" style="text-align:left;"><p> <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow" class="tt" href="http://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Bad+Moon+Rising+http%3A%2F%2Fis.gd%2F3OCoX0" title="Post to Twitter"><img class="nothumb" src="http://wallstreetexaminer.com/wp-content/plugins/tweet-this/icons/en/twitter/tt-twitter-micro3.png" alt="Post to Twitter" /></a></p></div><p>As politicians and central bankers around the world desperately try  to keep their debt drenched ponzi scheme going for awhile longer, the  mood darkens among the populations of developed countries around the  world. I came across a quote from, of all people, Vladimir Lenin that  describes how the last six weeks seemed to me:<em class='bbc'> </em></p>
<p> <em class='bbc'>“There are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen.”</em></p>
<p> It seems like history is accelerating. Momentous events have been  occurring regularly since 2007. Our political and financial leaders are  blindsided on a daily basis by each new crisis. The majority of the  American public continues to be apathetic, willfully ignorant, and  constantly absorbed by their array of electronic gadgets and mindless  drivel spewed at them by media conglomerates. Rather than think  critically, most Americans allow left wing and right wing mainstream  media to formulate their opinions for them through their propaganda and  misinformation operations. Linear thinkers, who make up the majority of  the political, social, media and financial elite in this country,  believe the world progresses and moves ever forward. In reality, the  world operates in a cyclical fashion, with generations throughout  history reacting to events in a predictable manner based upon their  stage in life. The reason the world has turned so chaotic, angry and  fraught with danger since 2007 is because we have entered another Fourth  Turning. Strauss &#038; Howe have been able to document a fourfold cycle  of generational types and recurring mood eras in American history back  500 years. They have also documented the same phenomenon in other  countries.</p>
<p> The housing collapse, near meltdown of our financial system,  revolutions in the Middle East, economic turmoil in Europe, poisoned  political atmosphere in Washington DC, and most recently the Occupy Wall  Street movement are part of a larger cycle. The four living generations  have each entered the phases of their lives that will lead to a  convulsive upheaval and destruction of the existing social order. We’ve  entered a twenty year period of Crisis as described by Strauss &#038;  Howe:</p>
<p> <em class='bbc'>“A CRISIS arises in response to  sudden threats that previously would have been ignored or deferred, but  which are now perceived as dire. Great worldly perils boil off the  clutter and complexity of life, leaving behind one simple imperative:  The society must prevail. This requires a solid public consensus,  aggressive institutions, and personal sacrifice. People support new  efforts to wield public authority, whose perceived successes soon  justify more of the same. Government governs, community obstacles are  removed, and laws and customs that resisted change for decades are  swiftly shunted aside. A grim preoccupation with civic peril causes  spiritual curiosity to decline. Public order tightens, private  risk-taking abates, and crime and substance abuse decline. Families  strengthen, gender distinctions widen, and child-rearing reaches a  smothering degree of protection and structure. The young focus their  energy on worldly achievements, leaving values in the hands of the old.  Wars are fought with fury and for maximum result</em><em class='bbc'>.” &#8211; </em><strong class='bbc'><a href='http://www.amazon.com/dp/0767900464?tag=thebur01-20&#038;camp=0&#038;creative=0&#038;linkCode=as1&#038;creativeASIN=0767900464&#038;adid=1KEB2GBTJPCA1PF89JP0' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>Strauss &#038; Howe</a></strong></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the $2.6 trillion in U.S. Treasury bonds the Social  Security Trust Fund is holding are shaky, then so are the bonds held by  individuals and most financial institutions in the U.S. and governments  around the world.  Since the demand for U.S. Treas...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetthis" style="text-align:left;"><p> <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow" class="tt" href="http://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Social+Security+and+the+Misinformation+Campaign+Trying+to+Kill+It+http%3A%2F%2Fis.gd%2FF2lTQf" title="Post to Twitter"><img class="nothumb" src="http://wallstreetexaminer.com/wp-content/plugins/tweet-this/icons/en/twitter/tt-twitter-micro3.png" alt="Post to Twitter" /></a></p></div><p>If the $2.6 trillion in U.S. Treasury bonds the Social  Security Trust Fund is holding are shaky, then so are the bonds held by  individuals and most financial institutions in the U.S. and governments  around the world.  Since the demand for U.S. Treasury bonds remains  high, the quality of this investment is either about as safe as any on  the planet, or every private and public money manager in the world has  gone stupid at the same time.</p>
<p>      	As long as the U.S. continues to repay its bond holders, Social Security  can continue to pay its full benefits until 2037.  And if nothing is  done to change Social Security by 2037 the system would still have funds  to pay 78% of its obligations to retirees, widows and the disabled.</p>
<p>          In other words, there is no immediate Social Security financial crisis. </p>
<p>          But there is a Social Security political crisis resulting from  an intense misinformation campaign to disable it or to destroy it  outright.</p>
<p>          In a recent commentary published by the Huffington Post Lori  Hansen Riegle and her husband and former Michigan U.S. Senator Don  Riegle unearthed this revealing gem:</p>
<p>          &#8220;House Republican Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) provided  some insight to their Social Security views in a recent NPR interview  when he was talking about Social Security and said, &#8220;We are going to  have to come to grips with the fact that these programs cannot exist if  we want America to be what we want it to be.&#8221; </p>
<p>          Interpretation: Cantor and those who share his views want an  American future that does not include Social Security. At all.  Social  Security is a government program, and government programs are to be  demolished or avoided.</p>
<p>          Texas Governor Rick Perry considers Social Security a &#8220;Ponzi&#8221;  scheme.  Wisconsin&#8217;s Paul Ryan, the Republican point man on  congressional budget policy, agrees with him.  Here&#8217;s what Ryan said  about this during a recent radio interview:</p>
<p>          &#8220;It is a pay-as-you-go system where earlier investors or, say,  taxpayers, get a positive rate of return and the most recent investors,  or taxpayers, get a negative rate of return.&#8221;</p>
<p>          The problem with Ryan&#8217;s definition is that taxpayers are <span class='bbc_underline'>not</span>  getting a negative rate of return, and won&#8217;t for decades, allowing  plenty of time for whatever minor changes may be needed beyond 2037.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Full Tilt Poker A Ponzi Scheme According To U.S. Attorney 
By DAVID B. CARUSO   
09/20/11 03:59 PM ET    
 
NEW YORK -- An Internet poker company that was blocked from operating in the U.S. in the spring as part of an online gambling crackdown was "not...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetthis" style="text-align:left;"><p> <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow" class="tt" href="http://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Full+Tilt+Poker+A+Ponzi+Scheme+http%3A%2F%2Fis.gd%2F5rOp29" title="Post to Twitter"><img class="nothumb" src="http://wallstreetexaminer.com/wp-content/plugins/tweet-this/icons/en/twitter/tt-twitter-micro3.png" alt="Post to Twitter" /></a></p></div><p>Full Tilt Poker A Ponzi Scheme According To U.S. Attorney <br />
By DAVID B. CARUSO   <br />
09/20/11 03:59 PM ET    </p>
<p>NEW YORK &#8212; An Internet poker company that was blocked from operating in the U.S. in the spring as part of an online gambling crackdown was &#8220;not a legitimate poker company, but a global Ponzi scheme,&#8221; federal prosecutors said Tuesday.</p>
<p>The popular Full Tilt Poker website illegally raided player accounts to fund operations and make lavish payments to its owners, Justice Department lawyers said in a revised civil lawsuit filed in New York.</p>
<p>Over four years, the company used $444 million in player money to pay board members, including well-known professional poker players Christopher Ferguson and Howard Lederer, investigators said.</p>
<p>The poker site had promised players that their accounts were protected and wouldn&#8217;t be touched. But authorities say that, as of March, <strong class='bbc'>the company had only $60 million left in its bank accounts to cover the $390 million </strong>it owed to players. It routinely mingled player money with its own finances, and took cash from some customers to pay out winnings due to others, prosecutors said.</p>
<p>&#8220;Full Tilt was not a legitimate poker company, but a global Ponzi scheme,&#8221; U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara said in a statement. &#8220;Not only did the firm orchestrate a massive fraud against the U.S. banking system, as previously alleged, Full Tilt also cheated and abused its own players to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href='http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/20/full-tilt-poker-ponzi-scheme_n_972349.html?icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%7C97511' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/20/full-tilt-poker-ponzi-scheme_n_972349.<br />
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		<title>What Would Happen If Social Security Disappeared?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 15:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[GOP presidential candidate Rick Perry repeated his characterization of Social Security as a Ponzi scheme  in Wednesday night's debate, and insisted that the retirement program  is unfair to young workers. If Perry is right, maybe we should end  Social ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetthis" style="text-align:left;"><p> <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow" class="tt" href="http://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=What+Would+Happen+If+Social+Security+Disappeared%3F+http%3A%2F%2Fis.gd%2FyC6XfP" title="Post to Twitter"><img class="nothumb" src="http://wallstreetexaminer.com/wp-content/plugins/tweet-this/icons/en/twitter/tt-twitter-micro3.png" alt="Post to Twitter" /></a></p></div><p>GOP presidential candidate Rick Perry <a href='http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20103039-503544.html' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>repeated his characterization of Social Security as a Ponzi scheme</a>  in Wednesday night&#8217;s debate, and insisted that the retirement program  is unfair to young workers. If Perry is right, maybe we should end  Social Security immediately. What would happen if we did?</p>
<p>Bad things, at least in the near term. As Jackie Calmes of the New York Times <a href='http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/07/live-blog-perry-makes-his-debate-debut/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>points out</a>,  the difference between Social Security and a Ponzi scheme is that  people who have paid into Social Security will eventually collect their  money. If the program ended tomorrow, they wouldn&#8217;t, and Social Security  really would become a Ponzi-like system. The results would be the same  as when any massive economic fraud collapses—a calamity. Poverty among  retirees would surge. The program <a href='http://www.ssa.gov/pressoffice/basicfact.htm' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>represents 41 percent of the income</a> for elderly Americans, and almost all of the personal income for a significant proportion of single retirees.</p>
<p>Current workers and employers would see an immediate benefit, in the form of a <a href='http://www.ssa.gov/oact/progdata/taxRates.html' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>6.2 percent</a>  increase in income, because the tax that funds Social Security would  disappear. But the economy as a whole would suffer for several years.  The young are more likely to save and invest. That&#8217;s good for the  economy, but its salutary effects take longer to materialize than the  immediate demand that the elderly create, since they spend their money  as fast as it comes in. </p>
<p>The immediate redistributive effects of ending Social Security wouldn&#8217;t  be limited to young versus old—there would be geographic winners and  losers as well. Since Social Security checks keep coming in no matter  what happens to the local economy, the program tends to stabilize aging  and struggling locales. If it disappeared suddenly, <a href='http://www.census.gov/prod/2001pubs/c2kbr01-10.pdf' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>havens for the elderly</a>  (PDF) like Florida, the slow-growing farm belt, and shrinking cities  such as Detroit would suffer badly. Major urban centers teeming with  youth would fare relatively well.</p>
<p><a href='http://www.slate.com/id/2303391/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.slate.com/id/2303391/</a></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ya gotta give Bernanke credit for being THE most consistent clueless (or lying) Fed Politburo Head, ever.

For, as reported here:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/44411981

...our own loveable, Pigman in Chief is now soothingly cooing that the U.S. bank's:

TWO...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetthis" style="text-align:left;"><p> <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow" class="tt" href="http://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Bernanke%3A+%22U.S.+bank+exposure+to+ChocoZone+is%E2%80%A6+http%3A%2F%2Fis.gd%2FEb4uep" title="Post to Twitter"><img class="nothumb" src="http://wallstreetexaminer.com/wp-content/plugins/tweet-this/icons/en/twitter/tt-twitter-micro3.png" alt="Post to Twitter" /></a></p></div><p>Ya gotta give Bernanke credit for being THE most consistent clueless (or lying) Fed Politburo Head, ever.</p>
<p>For, as reported here:</p>
<p><a href='http://www.cnbc.com/id/44411981' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.cnbc.com/id/44411981</a></p>
<p>&#8230;our own loveable, Pigman in Chief is now soothingly cooing that the U.S. bank&#8217;s:</p>
<p><strong class='bbc'>TWO-HUNDRED BILLION DOLLAR</strong></p>
<p>&#8230;exposure to the crippled ChozoZone banks is &#8220;manageable&#8221;.</p>
<p>Yeah, just like Bernanke was assuring Congress that &#8220;Subprime is contained&#8221; back in 2007, before that particular Ponzi scheme imploded&#8230;taking down Fannie/Freddie/FHLBs and every single Pigman financial gambler on the planet.</p>
<p><strong class='bbc'>(Spock Conclusion):</strong> Well, it&#8217;s been EXACTLY three-years to the day since the GSEs imploded and I&#8217;m sorry to report that NOTHING has changed:</p>
<p><strong class='bbc'>1. Same Alpha Thugs and Pigmen in charge</p>
<p>2. Same Ponzi Monetary System in operation</p>
<p>3. Same lies being told.</p>
<p>4. Same sheeple clueless as ever.</strong></p>
<p>&#8230;so please forgive me if I remain a little cynical and bitter regarding the prospects of us EVER seeing meaningful reform to our political/economic system.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aug 23, 2011  
The winner economy and the loser economy 
By Spengler 

Just what do America's large multinational corporations have to do with the US economy? Very little, judging by the data. 


Item: Final sales of domestic product rose by 3.8% (with...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetthis" style="text-align:left;"><p> <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow" class="tt" href="http://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=The+winner+economy+and+the+loser+economy+http%3A%2F%2Fis.gd%2FUPCSZZ" title="Post to Twitter"><img class="nothumb" src="http://wallstreetexaminer.com/wp-content/plugins/tweet-this/icons/en/twitter/tt-twitter-micro3.png" alt="Post to Twitter" /></a></p></div><p>Aug 23, 2011  <br />
The winner economy and the loser economy <br />
By Spengler </p>
<p>Just what do America&#8217;s large multinational corporations have to do with the US economy? Very little, judging by the data. </p>
<p>
Item: Final sales of domestic product rose by 3.8% (without adjustment for inflation) from the second quarter of 2010 to the second quarter of 2011. Sales of S&#038;P 500 corporations rose by 10%. </p>
<p>
Item: Employment in the S&#038;P 500 corporations rose by 10.6% between 2009 and 2010, to a total of 18.666 million. Total employment in the United States rose by 0.7% over the same period, to 130.26 million. Employees of the S&#038;P 500, that is, comprise less than 8% of total US employment, and their employment pattern bears no resemblance to the aggregate. </p>
<p>
Item: Profits of S&#038;P 500 corporations rose by 19% between the second quarter of 2010 and the second quarter of 2011. Nominal GDP (gross domestic product) of the US rose by 3.7%. </p>
<p>
Item: 47% of S&#038;P 500 sales are overseas. </p>
<p>
Item: Americans with no college-level education have an unemployment rate of 9.9% and (which is much more revealing) a labor-force participation rate of just 61%. Americans with some college education have an unemployment rate of 8.6% and a participation rate of 70%. And Americans with a bachelor&#8217;s degree or more have an unemployment rate of 5%, but a participation rate of 76%. Huge numbers of less-educated Americans, that is, don&#8217;t &#8221;participate&#8221; in the labor force because there is nothing for them to do. But Americans with a college degree (as devalued as those degrees are) have little unemployment and a very high rate of &#8221;participation.&#8221; </p>
<p>America, as I observed last week (The people&#8217;s Ponzi scheme, Asia Times Online August 15), imported $6 trillion of the world&#8217;s savings between 1998 and 2007. That great migration of capital employed an army of construction workers, mortgage bankers, retailers, lawyers and others dragged along by the tide. Real estate tax collections surged along with home prices and local governments grew fat and hired legions of workers. </p>
<p>And the construction boom kept less-educated Americans (and a great many immigrants) occupied. The construction industry has imploded, local governments have laid off 400,000 workers since August 2008, and countless service firms have disappeared. Nothing will bring them back. </p>
<p>Given the magnitude of the bubble that had to be popped, the outcome actually is encouraging. <strong class='bbc'>Most Americans with a college degree barely can add and subtract and compose a business letter, and most of them rode the bubble in various capacities</strong>. Yet despite the collapse of many white-collar professions, the unemployment rate of college-educated Americans remained around 5%. That testifies to the flexibility of the American economy and the resourcefulness of American job-seekers </p>
<p>
<a href='http://www.atimes.com/atimes/global_economy/mh23dj04.html' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.atimes.com/atimes/global_economy/mh23dj04.html</a></p>
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"The whole new regulatory reform is a joke.  The whole new government is a Ponzi scheme."

"It's unbelievable...Goldman...no one has any criminal convictions."

Bernie, Bernie.  You went too small-time, that's ...]]></description>
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<p>&#8220;The whole new regulatory reform is a joke.  The whole new government is a Ponzi scheme.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s unbelievable&#8230;Goldman&#8230;no one has any criminal convictions.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bernie, Bernie.  You went too small-time, that&#8217;s why you got busted.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[BUTNER, N.C. — Bernard L. Madoff said he never thought the collapse of his Ponzi scheme would cause the sort of destruction that has befallen his family.

 In his first interview for publication since his arrest in December  2008, Mr. Madoff — look...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetthis" style="text-align:left;"><p> <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow" class="tt" href="http://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Madoff+Says+Banks+Were+%E2%80%98Complicit%E2%80%99+in+Fraud+http%3A%2F%2Fis.gd%2Fqq5VSb" title="Post to Twitter"><img class="nothumb" src="http://wallstreetexaminer.com/wp-content/plugins/tweet-this/icons/en/twitter/tt-twitter-micro3.png" alt="Post to Twitter" /></a></p></div><p>BUTNER, N.C. — <a href='http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/m/bernard_l_madoff/index.html?inline=nyt-per' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>Bernard L. Madoff</a> said he never thought the collapse of his <a href='http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/f/frauds_and_swindling/ponzi_schemes/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>Ponzi scheme</a> would cause the sort of destruction that has befallen his family.</p>
<p> In his first interview for publication since his arrest in December  2008, Mr. Madoff — looking noticeably thinner and rumpled in khaki  prison garb — maintained that family members knew nothing about his  crimes.        </p>
<p> But during a private two-hour interview in a visitor room here on  Tuesday, and in earlier e-mail exchanges, he asserted that unidentified  banks and hedge funds were somehow “complicit” in his elaborate fraud,  an about-face from earlier claims that he was the only person involved. 		</p>
<p> Mr. Madoff, who is serving a 150-year sentence, seemed frail and a bit  agitated compared with the stoic calm he maintained before his  incarceration in 2009, perhaps burdened by sadness over the suicide of  his son Mark in December.        </p>
<p> Besides that loss, his family also has faced stacks of lawsuits, the  potential forfeiture of most of their assets, and relentless public  suspicion and enmity that cut Mr. Madoff and his wife <a href='http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/m/ruth_madoff/index.html?inline=nyt-per' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>Ruth</a> off from their children.        </p>
<p> In many ways, however, Mr. Madoff seemed unchanged. He spoke with great  intensity and fluency about his dealings with various banks and hedge  funds, pointing to their “willful blindness” and their failure to  examine discrepancies between his regulatory filings and other  information available to them.        </p>
<p> “They had to know,” Mr. Madoff said. “But the attitude was sort of, ‘If  you’re doing something wrong, we don’t want to know.’ ”</p>
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